Episode 25

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5th Nov 2025

Cracking the Code: Sperm DNA, Miscarriage, and the Future of Fertility Care

In this special episode of The Fertility Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Lalana Songra, medical advisor at Examen Lab, to talk about the urgent need for better understanding and testing around male fertility, particularly sperm DNA fragmentation (SDF).

As someone whose own fertility journey involved a male factor diagnosis, this is a topic close to my heart. And it’s still one that doesn’t get enough attention.

We explore why male fertility plays such a vital role in conception, pregnancy loss, and future child health, and how overlooked it still is in both diagnosis and support.

What we discuss in this episode:

  • What sperm DNA fragmentation (SDF) actually is and how it’s different from a standard semen analysis
  • The difference between single-strand vs double-strand sperm DNA damage and how they impact fertility
  • How new research links high SDF levels to recurrent pregnancy loss, even when semen analysis appears normal
  • Why it’s problematic that men are only looked at after multiple pregnancy losses
  • The lifestyle and health factors that impact sperm quality, and how quickly men can improve it
  • What the sperm testing process looks like and where to access it
  • The importance of including men in the conversation around fertility and pregnancy loss
  • How better male testing can lead to more accurate, personalised treatment decisions (like ICSI vs IVF)
  • Why early intervention and equal diagnosis for men matters, not just emotionally but medically

If you’ve had unexplained infertility, failed cycles, or losses with no clear answer, this episode could help you explore new questions and possibilities.

Special thanks to Examen sponsor of this episode

Examine offers direct, cutting-edge sperm DNA fragmentation testing (including single and double-strand damage) used by 85% of fertility clinics across the UK and Ireland.

Tests are:

  • Non-invasive
  • Available via clinics or partner hubs
  • Designed to provide clarity, confidence, and actionable insight

You don’t need a referral to get tested – just book online, drop off your sample, and get detailed results you can discuss with your clinic.

🔍 Learn more at Examen

Let’s keep the conversation going:

  • Follow me on Instagram: @fertilitypoddy
  • Email your thoughts or guest ideas: natalie@thefertilitypodcast.com
  • Follow our advocacy work: @fertility.action
  • Learn more about the men’s health campaign with Fertility Action and Test Him
  • Find out more about SDF testing via your clinic or directly at Examen Lab

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Until next time.

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About the Podcast

The Fertility Podcast
The Fertility Podcast|Expert interviews|Women and Men sharing #TTC stories|Wellbeing support
If you’ve found your route to parenthood hasn’t been straightforward, The Fertility Podcast is for you. From how to optimise your fertility to getting pregnant naturally, navigating IVF, understanding donor conception or surrogacy to how to prepare for a life without children. Whatever your situation, you are not alone. Created by Natalie Silverman, a former fertility patient in 2014 Natalie set about speaking to experts and sharing lived experience and expert interviews In 2019 Kate Davies, an independent fertility nurse consultant joined as co-host and from 2023-2024, Kate hosted the podcast solo sharing more of her expert insight and stories from her patients. As The Fertility Podcast reached its 10th anniversary the decision was taken to cease publishing.. until now. The Fertility Podcast is proud to partner with Fertility Action, a new UK charity dedicated to supporting anyone affected by infertility, secondary infertility, or sub-fertility. Together, we aim to amplify our mission of education, empowerment, and support. Fertility Action combines patient advocacy with expert knowledge to offer peer support, therapy, and reliable information. They are also committed to improving fertility care access, raising awareness, and driving research to advance understanding and treatment.

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